hi everyone. this page is late because it's particularly large. i was going to cut it in half, but then it would have been an even weirder schedule, and the pacing would've been off.
that said, there will be no more updates this month, as i will be observing the yamim noraim and studying, contemplating on my life, etc.
i apologize for the spotty update schedule, not just now, but over the entire course of this comic.
Is "ir directo con alguien" a thing in mexican spanish? Wouldn't be too surprised, but in case it isn't... well, I can't think of a suitably informal replacement, and it'd have to come from a mexican anyway, not a spaniard.
Of course, I guess if they're still learning it's theyir spanish is perfectly fine as is, it's not a "Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food" kinda thing.
hi. it actually isn't habla, but it is spelled wrong now that i looked at what i was given again because i wrote it by hand. my brain probably just carried over some letters from the upper line while writing it. should be fixed now. i'm not sure if that makes more sense but i trust my translator. 😅
Makes more sense yeah, that trailing -nos had turned a "(they) speak" into a "speak to us".
As to the "habla" (singular) vs "hablan" (plural) thing... Ah let's be nitpicky, why not: It's still "wrong", in a way.
The verb (the preposition's "core") must match the subject's "core" - analyzing the subject, "alguno de ellos", we can identify "alguno" ("one") as the core, and "de ellos" ("of them") as a prepositional phrase and complement to the core.
So it's either "alguno" + "habla" or "algunos" + "hablan". Looking into what you gave to your translator I'd say it's the later - "hablan" is indeed correct, it's "alguno" that's wrong.
...Sorry for being somewhat pushy, I myself had to brush up on my syntax analysis skills to figure out why "hablan" felt wrong (haven't used them since highschool!), and I'm sure my english is far worse than the standards I'm asking for.
thanks for the taking the time to explain. in the future, instead of apologizing and doing it anyway, please reconsider whether you have to type it at all and how it feels for me to read. not to say you did anything wrong since i kind of invited it by stating i didn't know if that made more sense, but i don't want to seem open to nitpicking. it's also a question of having to decide if this kind of nitpicking is like asking for me to make sure everyone says "whom" when that's technically grammatically correct, etc... sometimes grammar errors are intentional as much as sometimes visual errors are intentional, although i can bring it up w/my translator and ask if the correction sounds natural.
As someone who speaks a moderate amount of Spanish, this page was an Absolute Delight. Partway through that little exchange I thought 'one of the staff definitely knows Spanish' and then when it was revealed I felt so satisfied. (When I worked as a teacher that sort of thing happened All The Time with the kids, so this felt very realistic and entertaining to see reflected in fiction.)
Then that exchange near the end with the lovely mouse (I can't remember a name to save the life of me, sorry) and Kim...very soothing. What an atmosphere to it. Absolutely adored that.
Absolutely love the dialogue on this page from start to finish! It flows so well and the general pacing of the page is great with how much emphasis each interaction gets, really makes it easier to get engaged into every character whenever they speak, whatever reason that may be.
Plus, love the black inserts behind Kim & Lupe (Kerris as well), just really makes those instances prominent and that much more intriguing to read over. That interaction as a whole was just heartfelt and calming, loved it.
love the lighting on this page, it makes the fluorescence almost pleasing while still feeling like what it is. i also love how quiet kim is on this page, and how much attention she's paying to tabitha -- does a lot to highlight what she's focused on in her head at the moment.
i. love lup. she feels very wise and empathetic in a way that offsets her well from the other cast members -- not to say that they ARENT, but like, she does it in a way that feels safe for Kim to mess up around? if that makes any sense.
i love the texture on the panel where kim has just been asked what she thinks about when she's quiet (stippling? is that the word? i may be thinking of something else lol) it looks really nice & does a good job of like... pulling me in to linger there with her.
Would, anyone that's good with Spanish be willing to translate what was said in the comments?
Much thanks and love,
from someone who already knows three languages and has a hard time learning more because dumb head isn't wired for languages actually.
not good with spanish but i can tell you what i gave my translator in english.
"carmilla (in spanish): let’s talk about how stupid the doctors are.
lupe (in spanish): you’ll run into trouble like that one day. if i have a problem, i’m saying it to someone directly.
carmilla: booooo.
lupe (in spanish): i’m pretty sure they can speak spanish. some of them.
therapist (in spanish): yeah, i can.
carmilla (in spanish), speaking to therapist and motioning at lupe: well don’t let HER know that!!"
primera vez que escucho "meterse en bronca", es algo mexicano? y supongo que "desas" es "de esas" pero todo junto. ah y en el panel 16 pareciera que dice "segurisimon"
en fin, muy lindo comic. nunca comento pero como vi algo en español se me dio por hacerlo jaja
i don't have much to say about this page that i haven't already said--i'm always happy to see another from this comic i'm checking in Every Day but also--i swear i recognize the face carmilla is making in panel 12 from something specific? is it from an old meme or am i being dumb
>mfw i dont speak spanish cuz this country doesnt give us the option until way too late in education :( i still love carmillas and lupes interactions though! its Fun
that being said i love lupe VERY much </3 shes so nice </3 also poor kerris omfg v///v
i feel like ive said it like, 100 times or at least on every page but i love!!! how you use backgrounds and the shapes in them and colors and everything to convey emotion!!! its the good shit!! possibly even the BEST!!!
i also luv panel 13, the angles on the first few panels, also kims look on panel 6 omg, and of *COURSE*.... carmillas faces <3 ALSO OMG LUPES FACE WHEN THE THERAPIST CONFIRMS THEY SPEAK SPANISH...LOVES IT
ALSO i dont know if as a wlw i do or don't have a place to comment on this, but i've always really liked the way you handle female anatomy--specifically the breasts on characters, often i see people giving way too much thought or way too little thought, intentionally exaggerating them or intentionally leaving them out entirely, etc. you pay a decent amount of attention to the physics Without taking it too far--like the way they have depth and shading but not to the point the cleavage is visible through the shirt, and how they realistically rest on surfaces the character is leaning against. it's just treated like any other body part where you're respecting the weight and shape of the object.
i say this as someone who is generally annoyed by breasts/female anatomy in most visual art because of how sexualized or glorified it tends to be, so i hope this doesn't come off as obsessive ^^;
ah im feeling choked up at lupe’s words.. they feel very resonant with me.. i wish this was the kind of thing that people will say to you in real life. but to hear it being said in a comic feels just as wise and important
Which is real fucked up imo. I mean I guess with fur, and a minor cut, it makes some sense? But it still leaves it open for infection and slowed healing.
Idk I’m just still bitter about them ignoring repeated requests to provide first aid for a serious wound until I’d been there more than twelve hours.
But uh. To pivot from the medical abuse side I just wanna say that the past couple of pages with other patients providing small moments of understanding solidarity and patient attempts at connection have truly caught me off guard with how much they affected me. I mean I should have expected that considering how close to home and personal experience it is, but past the layer of being happy to see a character receive some much needed kindness, both times now it’s snuck up on me and suddenly I’m a little weepy-eyed without any warning or lead up. Most of my memories of time detained in these facilities are locked up in that part of my brain it shoves things into when it thinks it’s helping and I still can’t remember a shred of the specifics wrt moments like these, but all the same they’re deeply, overwhelmingly familiar.
This went on too long and I’m struggling to connect it all back to a cohesive point but just...
You capture this horrific situation to be in so well. You don’t soften the abuse, but never go so far that it becomes impossible to read (at least for me). The ways you break the tension when it begins to get unbearable don’t take away from the seriousness of what’s going on.
And the last few pages have reminded me of other patients I forgot, locked away with everything surrounding them that I can’t access. No specifics about them, but the way they helped me survive it. The way they helped a number of us survive it.
I don’t know how to end this post. If it’s a Bit Much and doesn’t get approved I totally understand, these thoughts have just been slowly forming since I started reading at the start of this.
Tl;dr great comic handling subject matter so hard to do well with an absolute joy of an art style to boot
I love the transitions in this scene! Despite being almost opposites in personality, I think my favorite characters so far are Ms. Whittacker and Lupe. I’m glad to see more Lupe content!
Very cool to see more of Lupe, her character is an interesting dynamic with the rest of them and I really like seeing the way she seems to try and meet people halfway on how they feel and act.
As always the colour choices and use of shading are a delight to look at, really keeps the feeling of the same walls and lights/shadows while framing a new scene in a way that really really works nicely!
i really like the ambiguity of who theyre talking about being missing... with kerris being the one to show up late, and carmilla being upset it reminds me a lot of when kerris got skipped over in group.
all of what lupe is saying to kim...in the framing of the whole comic and of her suicide attempt. "do you feel bad for what u did" "we learn everything from the pain. can you learn from this?" thought provoking
I'm late but Shana Tova!! Despite being Jewish myself, I forget these things because poor sense of time...
Anyway... I love the continuation of Tabby's and Kim's comforting handholding vs. the methodical handholding of the staff as they check each person. You can really feel the difference in warmth between those two gestures and I think that's a testament to your skill, gray.
Also Carmilla's faces are awesome. And I like how Lupe is trying to understand Kim, but also trying to help her understand herself at the same time - guiding her towards an answer but without pushing her in a specific direction!
that said, there will be no more updates this month, as i will be observing the yamim noraim and studying, contemplating on my life, etc.
i apologize for the spotty update schedule, not just now, but over the entire course of this comic.