Those sausages are the worst thing I've ever seen. Also, it's fun to follow the eye contact (or lack of) on this page. Sugar (uhh Kysely this time, whups) seems to focus her gaze on unusual/interesting points in space, enjoyed that in Drop-Out. You always put a lot of attention into your characters' attention, it's subtle sometimes but over several panels that kind of stuff makes a person so dimensional. GREAT page, great timing for some comic relief and best of all, Kim's face in panel 3
Fresh Meat has already been a great comic but now it’s definitely gone beyond great. This page is seriously hilarious. I love Kim’s expressions and body language, especially compared to Kysley, who oh my gosh is soooo different from how she is in “present day” it’s kind of incredible.
speaking of which, i don’t remembered if you’ve mentioned anywhere, is Kylsey around Kim’s age here? 17-ish?
i think sugar is around 19 in cross-check, its 3 years before sugar and frankie break up, which is 2ish years before drop-out, when she is is 25. so kysley is a couple years older than kim
Looooove those squished eyes in panels 16-17 since it gives such a strong expression. Also it is very refreshing to see Kim finally interact with someone who isn't a nurse. Can't wait until we meat the main cast.
god the interactions between these two are so great, i love how kim is just super weirded out by everything kysley's doing
really interesting to see how different kysley acts compared to how she was in drop-out and how she is now (i.e in familial stranger). she seems a lot more negative/hopeless and kinda more naive? curious to see how she'll act later on too
Ifff I may build on this a bit- she also seems more... considerate? In Familial Stranger? More communicative? She seems to more actively consider other people's feelings and what they're trying to say to her, and more frequently explains her own actions and reasonings. And while she does talk about things here, it seems to follow like...her own train of thought? I don't know if I'm explaining myself well lmao, but I thought it was interesting.
@fallingfeather exactly! here, she seems a lot more... unaware in general, like not fully aware of how she might appear to others or what others want (notably the 'impatient'/'a patient' thing).
she also seems slower, if that makes sense?
again, definitely interested to see how things play out w/ the dynamic between these two!
It keeps nagging at me that the page numbering is off by one from the URL numbering. I know it's because page 5 was the title page, but it bothers me for some reason.
I accidentally reloaded the page instead of posting my comment so like despacito but it gives me a chance to fix my word salad so blessing in disguise! Anyways so! Technical stuff! I love Kim's head shake and the shared eye between the two "frames", it works very well! And I love the comic medium and I'm extra in live with it right now because the time between now and the next update will let me feel that Mealtime Tension when it comes to sitting at a table somewhere. Like I just think that's so cool that there's a way to convey that a little bit extra to the reader! At least the current ones anyways. Next up. sugarrrRRRRRRRR kysley! We love a kysley! We love happier grown fat beautiful personality sugar of the future but to see where she came from is super cool! I LOVE HER teeth in the last panel but also just the expressions throughout, especially the one where she talks about the hairbrushes she's just so.. amused but like also obviously on some heavy sedatives. Those big old half lidded eyes.. and just the like wordplay and like even under that heavy sedation she's so smart like her vocabulary is still pretty impeccable, if slightly quirky in it's intricacies and also just noticing things about Kim. And I just really really really like how well this conveys the exact situation. Like the exact feeling of being new to this place where you're exhausted and confused and there's absolutely no way to prepare for the dynamics in the ward and youre desperately trying to grasp what the standard of normalcy is in here so you can act normal and you meet this person. And the person is some sort of revolving door or at least quite experienced patient, they know the drill, they're kind of cynical, they have absolutely no scrap of judgement when it comes to other peoples behaviours left in their body. But you don't know that so you're still grasping at straws trying to find a safe way to test the waters and have a normal conversation so they don't judge you for being so new and confused. But the other person isn't judging at all so they just talk how they do and they know that the new one will figure it out soon enough. This is honestly word soup at this point but yeah it gets that exact vibe down pat!
GOD sugar's baby butch haircut with the hair poking out at the bottom is killin me lmao. i had that as a teen soooo much, well before i even realized i wasnt straight. she looks soo fuckin young here and reminds me so much of awkward nonbinary butch teen me... i would protect her with my Life.
i love that sugar is coming across kinda blunt and rude here, but at the same time you can tell she's genuinely a fundamentally nice person who does want to be friends - you can tell from little details like her apologizing then properly introducing herself once the realization dawns on her that kim is new and freaked out, as well as waiting for kim to be done so they can sit together.
it almost comes across as like... tsundere, until you realize that's most likely symptoms of her (yet-undiagnosed) condition like blunt affect, wandering trains of thought (misattributed to adhd), social difficulty, anhedonia, etc. she probably doesn't realize how blunt or aloof she's coming across or hasn't yet identified exactly what causes people to react like she's being rude- there's no ill intent, it's just... how she talks
also i REALLY love the line variation usage to portray objects that are closer or further away
i started rereading drop-out today bc i wanted to get to the super relatable The Gend conversations, but then i got to page 33 where sugars talking about still having hospital bills to pay off and my eyes opened so wide.... anyway i remember having seen gray talk about how sugars very different when shes not in the middle of An Episode and its rlly cool to get to see that side of her here/in side comics.
also having come out of some recent bad experiences with the mental health industry its just really cathartic to read about characters who are also being actively failed by the system. i know stuffs probably gonna keep getting worse for kim and the rest of the cast which wont necessarily be Fun to see, but it still feels like getting to commiserate, vicariously. so gray if youre reading this thanks for what you do
(additional obligatory mention that all of kims awkward faces on this page are beautiful. shes so great)
always so refreshing to see such a relatable character in sugar, seriously it makes me emotional and means a lot. i especially love the top 3 panels juxtaposing kim trying to figure out the best way to approach while sugar just kind of dozes off. always love ur ability to demonstrate thoughts and feelings without dialogue. also kim trying to gauge how ~~Crazy sugar is and how to act is so funny, and sugars reactions are so good.
what? it was a joke based off that one guy who comments so much for consistent updates on every late page. I don't get why you're directing this to me when there's someone commenting the phrase this joke is based off completely unironically literally RIGHT below me
are you the same guy from the last 2 pages? like the dude above me said you are way too fucking entitled--dupe doesn't owe you consistent pages or anything for that matter so just get over it, it's not gonna kill you to wait a few days for a comic page
also i find it interesting that kysley clearly has good intentions but comes off as rude bc of how straightforward she is, like, the socially learned tone of someone saying "are you gonna _____" implies that they're irritated but i feel like that was a genuine question
my sister (a vegetarian) had these awful morningstar veggie sausages that looked very similar in color and texture to those, actually. i know sugar can't eat them because she's a carnivore but i can all too vividly imagine the horrible mushy not-food texture of biting into one
Just read drop out, drop out myself, been through hell and back, having a good laugh reading these comics, the text is a bit illegible but i can make it out.
no they aren't, they've actually been making sure they AREN'T dead by taking care of some health problems. i'm not sure if you saw some of the comment threads on the last few pages before they got deleted, but they explained what was going on.
hey everyone, gray posted an offical update on their patreon that I felt people here would want to see:
“hello folks, it's been dark for a bit. i'll cut to the meat immediately: i am pausing this campaign so that no one is charged for next month or december. the pause may extend past december, but i won't know how resilient i am until i get there.
i am not reverting my account back to patron-only status because i would like to work on some art and publish it to the relevant tiers while on hiatus knowing that they aren't for any specific deadlines or schedule, but you won't be charged for them. i will not unpause the campaign until i feel happy with my ability to work and function of my own free will again.
i'll also be unable to issue any further refunds until resuming the campaign because patreon has a very ill-thought-out cash-out/cash-in system that does not favor refunding people at all, buuuut if you'd like one, i will provide it at that point, so keep your (metaphorical) receipts handy.
this does also unfortunately mean that i won't be working on due commissions any further until i am better, and i may be slow about responding to messages.
anyway, with that out of the way, i am very sick from this eating disorder, so that's the explanation. i am sorry that i can't give a more definitive date for when i will be better, but recovery programs are very clear about not giving any sort of specific timeline because everyone is different (and hard numbers will only increase the chances of imminent relapse or total failure to recover).
i've been keeping weekly updates on my tumblr, but as a summary: i actually HAVE been improving, it's just slow. i've escalated from 500 calories and liquids only during the tail-end of last month to about 3,500 per day. this seems like a lot, but it is necessary to recover.
i am actually eating and drinking much more than the average person needs to due to the excess need for nutrients and energy to repair damage, which means i've also been spending more time cooking, monitoring, eating, etc. (have to eat a meal about once every 2 hours). i have not, in fact, gained any actual weight from this besides pounds of water from rehydration, which probably makes it more evident than anything that my health has been pretty far off from "fine" for quite a while.
so far, my sleep has just started to stabilize to a more normal level of about 7 hours per day in the past couple of days; up until that point, i could only sleep for 2-4 hours per night on most nights still (which became more stable and consistent with the increases in calories), which is common for starved individuals. this means i've been starting to reach an equilibrium with my energy needs. i haven't even really been able to rest due to how strongly bodies react to an emergency, but it seems like i will probably start to be able to soon.”
their personal tumblr is gynandromorph if anyone wants to keep up more! happy halloween everyone
I'm sure your intentions were well-meaning but it's a really bad move to put someone's personal diary blog on a public website where any malicious stranger could go harass them.
For that matter, they don't really need the intimate details either, a simple "they announced an official hiatus on patreon" would have probably been enough.
unnecessarily intrusive, if gray wanted everybody to know they would post on update on here. not your place to share something from their patreon-a lot closer-knit place than online for everybody to see
I'll agree that you should not post their tumblr link. gray has stated in the past (in the comments of a page of drop-out if I recall correctly) that they don't want their personal tumblr being shared.
However this post explaining their hiatus and what's going on was not patron-only and was released to the public willingly. gray has 1000+ patrons but there is also an option to post things publicly on a patreon without needing to actually be a patron to see, which Gray has done. You can find gray's patreon on google, it's not private or personal, it's something they've decided to professionally disclose. Some people don't know that gray even has a patreon and therefor don't think to check it.
(accidentally posted oops) I'm not trying to speak for gray this is just as far as I can tell from having a patreon and being a frequent visitor of theirs but not an actual patron.
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speaking of which, i don’t remembered if you’ve mentioned anywhere, is Kylsey around Kim’s age here? 17-ish?
really interesting to see how different kysley acts compared to how she was in drop-out and how she is now (i.e in familial stranger). she seems a lot more negative/hopeless and kinda more naive? curious to see how she'll act later on too
she also seems slower, if that makes sense?
again, definitely interested to see how things play out w/ the dynamic between these two!
i love that sugar is coming across kinda blunt and rude here, but at the same time you can tell she's genuinely a fundamentally nice person who does want to be friends - you can tell from little details like her apologizing then properly introducing herself once the realization dawns on her that kim is new and freaked out, as well as waiting for kim to be done so they can sit together.
it almost comes across as like... tsundere, until you realize that's most likely symptoms of her (yet-undiagnosed) condition like blunt affect, wandering trains of thought (misattributed to adhd), social difficulty, anhedonia, etc. she probably doesn't realize how blunt or aloof she's coming across or hasn't yet identified exactly what causes people to react like she's being rude- there's no ill intent, it's just... how she talks
also i REALLY love the line variation usage to portray objects that are closer or further away
also having come out of some recent bad experiences with the mental health industry its just really cathartic to read about characters who are also being actively failed by the system. i know stuffs probably gonna keep getting worse for kim and the rest of the cast which wont necessarily be Fun to see, but it still feels like getting to commiserate, vicariously. so gray if youre reading this thanks for what you do
(additional obligatory mention that all of kims awkward faces on this page are beautiful. shes so great)
take as long as you need to take care of yourself
“hello folks, it's been dark for a bit. i'll cut to the meat immediately: i am pausing this campaign so that no one is charged for next month or december. the pause may extend past december, but i won't know how resilient i am until i get there.
i am not reverting my account back to patron-only status because i would like to work on some art and publish it to the relevant tiers while on hiatus knowing that they aren't for any specific deadlines or schedule, but you won't be charged for them. i will not unpause the campaign until i feel happy with my ability to work and function of my own free will again.
i'll also be unable to issue any further refunds until resuming the campaign because patreon has a very ill-thought-out cash-out/cash-in system that does not favor refunding people at all, buuuut if you'd like one, i will provide it at that point, so keep your (metaphorical) receipts handy.
this does also unfortunately mean that i won't be working on due commissions any further until i am better, and i may be slow about responding to messages.
anyway, with that out of the way, i am very sick from this eating disorder, so that's the explanation. i am sorry that i can't give a more definitive date for when i will be better, but recovery programs are very clear about not giving any sort of specific timeline because everyone is different (and hard numbers will only increase the chances of imminent relapse or total failure to recover).
i've been keeping weekly updates on my tumblr, but as a summary: i actually HAVE been improving, it's just slow. i've escalated from 500 calories and liquids only during the tail-end of last month to about 3,500 per day. this seems like a lot, but it is necessary to recover.
i am actually eating and drinking much more than the average person needs to due to the excess need for nutrients and energy to repair damage, which means i've also been spending more time cooking, monitoring, eating, etc. (have to eat a meal about once every 2 hours). i have not, in fact, gained any actual weight from this besides pounds of water from rehydration, which probably makes it more evident than anything that my health has been pretty far off from "fine" for quite a while.
so far, my sleep has just started to stabilize to a more normal level of about 7 hours per day in the past couple of days; up until that point, i could only sleep for 2-4 hours per night on most nights still (which became more stable and consistent with the increases in calories), which is common for starved individuals. this means i've been starting to reach an equilibrium with my energy needs. i haven't even really been able to rest due to how strongly bodies react to an emergency, but it seems like i will probably start to be able to soon.”
their personal tumblr is gynandromorph if anyone wants to keep up more! happy halloween everyone
For that matter, they don't really need the intimate details either, a simple "they announced an official hiatus on patreon" would have probably been enough.
However this post explaining their hiatus and what's going on was not patron-only and was released to the public willingly. gray has 1000+ patrons but there is also an option to post things publicly on a patreon without needing to actually be a patron to see, which Gray has done. You can find gray's patreon on google, it's not private or personal, it's something they've decided to professionally disclose. Some people don't know that gray even has a patreon and therefor don't think to check it.
Of course I'm not trying to speak for
I'd be kinda pissed if a fan took it upon themself to leave a post like this.
Gray chose not to say anything here, and that's their business. You're not helping, you're just annoying and overstepping boundaries.
And now there's all these comments telling you off that they're gonna have to clean up later (myself included, sorry gray), so. Great job.
You should've just left a link to the public post. Nothing's wrong with driving traffic to their Patreon anyway.